What some teachers, administrators think about MCAS/PARCC debate

December 13, 2015

In a quick update on PARCC and MCAS testing to the School Committee on Thursday, Dec. 10, Linda Hanson, president of the Arlington Education Association said she polled union representatives at the nine public schools what each prefers. In brief, the survey showed that in seven elementary schools, reps in two strongly favor MCAS. Among negatives cited about PARCC are stress level and the time involved.

Those in four elementary schools favor PARCC using paper and pencil.

Some think the schools should take a year off from high-stakes testing.

At Ottoson, views were split, Hanson told the committee, and opinion weighed against PARCC using paper and pencil, but using it without paper.

“Teachers have taken this seriously,” she said.

From an administrator’s viewpoint, Ottoson Principal Tim Ruggere said, “It took years to get used to MCAS …. department chairs see PARCC is the next step.”

Later in the Dec. 10 meeting, Chairman Paul Schlichtman called Hanson back during a discussion of testing.

Each test is problematic, and each is potentially useful, she said. “You have to make a choice between two imperfect things,” she said, adding:

“This is the beginning of the conversation ….”

In addition, she said, she called this a “perfect example of a situation where teachers should have a say.”

The following notes were provided to the School Committee during public participation and later in the Dec. 10 meeting. She had also commented at the Nov, 19 meeting. Read those remarks here >>

Building Reports Based on Recommendation of SCHOOL CHOICE (online or paper and pencil) and NO PREP – JUST TEST THE TEST (conversations held within the building – administrator invited) – AEA Dec. 2015

School

PARCC Paper & Pencil

PARCC online

or MCAS

3-5 Major Factors that Swayed Teachers to this Opinion Additional Comments
#1 MCAS
  • PARCC timed test
  • student stress related to keyboarding skills
 
#2 MCAS
  • the teachers and students already know this test
  • it will be less stressful for the students
  • comfort for teachers
  • it’s already December so it will be stressful to prepare for a different format now
  • A few teachers noted that they are curious to see what the PARCC is like
#3 Mixed
  • MCAS: timed test and super high levels of anxiety
  • MCAS: going to be a different test after this year
  • PARCC: get a better look at the test and see how students react to it
 
#4

PARCC

Gr. 3 & 4 paper and pencil

Gr. 5 online

  • better addresses curriculum
  • better represents understandings of the topics we are aiming for
  • exposure to test items that may be incorporated into MCAS
  • useful data about how our current programs in literacy and math prepare kids for the layered deep questions presented on the test
  • opportunity to try out new test format in hold harmless environment
  • Gr. 3 & 4 P & P b/c easier to focus on the test items; Gr. 5 online b/c helpful to see what the problems are that students and teachers will encounter with iPads if tech. not sufficient
 
#5

PARCC paper and pencil (5)

MCAS (3)

PARCC

  • hold harmless
  • no test prep
  • practice new format
  • view of what future might look like with the direction we are going
  • year off from high stakes
  • some concerns about SPED and ELL
MCAS

  • know how to prepare students
  • familiarity for students and teachers
  • meaningful data
  • limits anxiety around new test and format and unknown for students and teachers
  • not enough advanced notice for this change
  • SPED and ELL concerns
  • no accountability may create a poor testing mindset for 1st time test takers
#6

PARCC

online (but not 100% – some think paper and pancil)

  • We have done the MCAS, so need to get ready for the PARCC.
  • Would like to work out the kinks of taking an online test.
  • Don’t have to prepare for it. Take it cold and see results.
 
#7 PARCC paper and pencil    
OMS Pretty evenly split 50/50– BUT —->
  • The vast majority of those who want PARCC want it as a test of our computer network, NOT because it will be useful for kids or teachers.
  • Strong feeling that we don’t need “one more thing” so stay with MCAS since PARCC won’t matter
  • Concern about stress for students taking an unfamiliar test that won’t help them
  • No one said PARCC paper and pencil at Ottoson
  • Math teachers more likely to want PARCC than anyone else
  • Guidance/admin are already crazy doing MCAS- can’t imagine the chaos of changing now to something new

EDCO – Thoughts from ELA Directors on MCAS/PARCC Question

Bedford – PARCC – mixed paper and pencil and computer (prepped) from January on

3rd graders – most pressure – 2 passages, 2 pages long

Watertown – PARCC P&P – stress level high

 

Concord – PARCC 3-5 online – tech specialist in each building – 1:1 district – hard wired –  – relatively smoothly – little text box with small font – 6 lines of text – one month for technology specialists fully booked – 3rd graders cried during math

Newton – PARCC – 13/15 online – computer nightmare – tech and lit specialists – took over a ton of time – positive experience – didn’t change any instruction – message: testing the test

Belmont – PARCC P & P (piloted online previous year – kids loved online) – killed staff behind the scenes – talked it down – didn’t do a lot of test prep – few big meetings with teachers around the format – breath of fresh air

Lexington – MCAS – and likely MCAS again this year

Winchester – MCAS last year, likely MCAS again this year – colleague a sub and scorer for PARCC – nightmare – couldn’t get anything calibrated amongst the scorers

Lincoln – MCAS last year – not sure for this year


 

This information was published Tuesday, Dec. 15, 2015.

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